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- <text id=93TT1184>
- <title>
- Mar. 15, 1993: Sheik Omar Speaks Out
- </title>
- <history>
- TIME--The Weekly Newsmagazine--1993
- Mar. 15, 1993 In the Name of God
- </history>
- <article>
- <source>Time Magazine</source>
- <hdr>
- COVER STORIES, Page 32
- Sheik Omar Speaks Out
- </hdr>
- <body>
- <p>Jill Smolowe and Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman
- </p>
- <p> Sitting on a couch with his right foot tucked under his
- left leg, Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman met with TIME associate editor
- Jill Smolowe in his Jersey City apartment in late January. In
- a living room furnished only with two beige couches, some office
- chairs and a worn Persian rug, the 90-minute interview was
- interrupted repeatedly by visitors and phone calls. He talked
- with a mixture of fervor and good humor about himself, his
- religion and the U.S. government's efforts to deport him.
- </p>
- <p> Q. How do you find your life here?
- </p>
- <p> A. Definitely it is a life full of cruelty--being alone,
- living alone, a blind man; bringing me before the court,
- withdrawing my green card; the lying of the media.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Why has the U.S. State Department labeled you a
- terrorist?
- </p>
- <p> A. The State Department is wrong. They get the information
- from the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
- </p>
- <p> Q. In Egypt you were imprisoned and charged with complicity
- in the assassination of Anwar Sadat.
- </p>
- <p> A. The court acquitted me as innocent. I was also accused
- on behalf of the Jihad organization of planning to overthrow the
- government. In 1985 I was in prison for three months. In 1986
- for one month. In 1989 for four months.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Why did you leave Egypt in 1990?
- </p>
- <p> A. It was too much for me. The police continued besieging
- my house day and night. I couldn't get out, and nobody could
- come into my house. Who was going to fix the electricity or the
- furniture? I had to leave.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Do you advocate the overthrow of the secular government
- of Hosni Mubarak?
- </p>
- <p> A. Since the time of Nasser, I have advocated the overthrow
- of the government.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Is that the message you send to Egypt?
- </p>
- <p> A. The regime in Egypt is a dictatorship. Mubarak rules by
- fire and iron; he rules in a police state; he rules by the
- emergency constitution and by harsh laws. I challenge Mubarak to
- survive one hour without his laws and emergency constitution. He
- is abusing human rights; there are so many injustices.
- </p>
- <p> You have to leave him to his own fate, which is inevitable.
- One day the Egyptian people will have to overthrow him. You
- people of Egypt, you have to overthrow this unjust and arrogant
- ruler.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Do you send messages to Egypt encouraging attacks on
- foreigners?
- </p>
- <p> A. Tourism is legal in Islam. But tourism is not gambling
- or dancing in nightclubs or drinking liquor. Tourists have to
- respect our public rules, our traditions and customs. They
- shouldn't abuse the dignity of the people or spread AIDS and
- fornication. We have to protect the rules of the land.
- </p>
- <p> Q. People have compared you to the Ayatullah Khomeini,
- extolling Islamic revolution.
- </p>
- <p> A. I just want to serve Islam by all my strength and power.
- Khomeini led a revolution and beautified his country, made it
- clean of the Shah, who was so unjust. What Khomeini did was a
- real success.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Is this what you'd like to do for Egypt?
- </p>
- <p> A. I want to see that Egypt is ruled Islamically and that
- Mubarak's regime is overthrown and that every tyrant in the
- area is overthrown.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What does that mean, "every tyrant"?
- </p>
- <p> A. All Arab rulers, like the Saudis and the Kuwaitis and
- [the rulers in] the gulf states and Yemen and Iraq and the
- North African countries like Morocco, Tunisia and Libya.
- </p>
- <p> Q. So who's O.K.?
- </p>
- <p> A. [Laughs.] Only the Sudanese government [which has
- imposed Islamic rule].
- </p>
- <p> Q. Would you like to head a new government in Egypt?
- </p>
- <p> A. No.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Have you ever issued a fatwa [religious opinion]
- sanctioning the assassination of anybody?
- </p>
- <p> A. What is needed from me is not to make fatwas but to say
- the truth.
- </p>
- <p> Q. How do you support yourself?
- </p>
- <p> A. Allah is the provider.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What are your feelings toward the West?
- </p>
- <p> A. The West is fanatic about itself. The media are useless
- and liars and dishonest. They take what agrees with their
- thinking, and they don't quote everything honestly. It looks
- like a directed media, and it is a biased one. It is a racist
- media. He who defends his rights is labeled as a terrorist.
- Omar Rahman is a terrorist because he defends the Muslims in
- Egypt.
- </p>
-
- </body>
- </article>
- </text>
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